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Track Billboards
Well guys I started working on the billboards that are going on the inside of the track retaining walls. I used Microsoft's Paint Program that comes standard on all of their operating systems. All things considered I think they turned out fairly well. I used a color laser printer to print the billboards. If you don't have one then put the billboards on a flash drive and take it to your nearest Staples or Office Depot and have them use their laser printer and print them for you. The pictures pretty much tell the story.
When trying to arrange the different logos I tried to pick up colors from the adjacent logo. For example the Sunoco is mostly blue however there is yellow and red also. Therefore, the Bojangle's billboard next to it has yellow and red in it also. I think this helps the eye transition more easily. It seems to flow better... at least for me anyway.
The Bojangle's billboard is a composite that I made from two different logos.
The Fayetteville Motor Speedway billboard is one that I made from scratch.
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Trundle Track Triumph
Posted by mgbbrown on Sun, 2011-10-02 22:14Big-T; This is beyond AWESOME! Well done! The Fayetteville Motor Speedway logo was a nice touch, since Bragg-town is close to home. PLEASE shoot a photo of the overall track so far. Where did you get those black track screws? I had sourced NOS Aurora ones for both of my tracks. This is one of the nicest small layouts I have seen in a while. God Bless! Tony mgbbrown
Always drink upstream from the herd. -Will Rogers
Thanks MGB
Posted by Big-T on Sun, 2011-10-02 22:30The overall photo will be coming shortly... however I would like to wait until I have finished the layout. Hopefully it will not be too much longer!! I have several more things to complete on the track. The black track screws are home grown... they are silver metal screws that I primed and spray painted myself.
Big-T
looking good!
Posted by Plymouth71 on Sun, 2011-10-02 22:22nice work on the Billboard!
The beatings will continue until morale improves- The Captain
Thanks Plymouth...
Posted by Big-T on Sun, 2011-10-02 22:35Thanks Plymouth...
I appreciate the compliment... just trying to get this track completed. It seems to be taking forever!
Big-T
Not having a permanent layout myself...
Posted by aussie ho on Mon, 2011-10-03 01:06... makes me sit up and really listen, watch and learn from you guys. The detail you guys put into your layouts is simply awesome. I know one day when the priority sits right I will get to make something that I can wheel away instead of dismantling and packing away like I do know. But until that day comes, I'll sit in awe of the handiwork being done. Great stuff. Keep the info coming.
Like JohnsIsland tag line says...
Posted by Big-T on Mon, 2011-10-03 07:24"When two or more minds are concentrating on the same subject, a 3rd more powerful mind is created." Collectively we have all contributed to this hobby not only to perpetuate it but to improve upon it also. I have learned so much from you guys in return. :-)
Big-T
Black self tapping screws - ebay
Posted by aussie ho on Mon, 2011-10-03 05:05Check this item out team. Not sure if it's exactly what you're after Tony but I think it comes close. Painting them seems a little fiddly when the price for ready made is reasonable. Hope this helps.
Item number:190375976722
http://www.ebay.com/itm/100-S834K-Black-8-X3-4-Flat-Head-Self-Tapping-Sc...
I used #4 x 1" flat head
Posted by Big-T on Mon, 2011-10-03 07:14I used #4 x 1" flat head screws.
Big-T
THANKS Angel!
Posted by mgbbrown on Mon, 2011-10-03 09:32I am good Angel-Aurora offered these in cellophane bags of a dozen screws, Interestingly the ones I got from Ron Bernstein of Riggen fame were Phillips, and the others have been straight head screws. These are anodized black. I think I took a photo of them somewhere as they are quite difficult to locate. I will use them on the Indy track I am proposing. Building vintage layouts too takes planing and forethought too as it is VERY difficult to come up with solutions that are from the 1960's-they just do not grow on trees any more. Even Roebling Road sits on a bathroom door from my Mom's house that was built in 1963, the track was Big-T's that he and his brother Benton had growing up, and the DC-1 transformer was from Ray. Hopefully I will start looking for some Atlas hay bales for Roebling Road in the future, as well as a judge's stand. The Indy track is just about half acquired-I just need some more O-gauge bits and a nice transformer. God Bless! Tony mgbbrown
Always drink upstream from the herd. -Will Rogers
Painting Screws Not Too Bad
Posted by Big-T on Mon, 2011-10-03 19:11Painting screws are not too bad. I drilled 20 to 30 starter holes in an old board then hand turned the screws into the board, prep the screws, spray primed the screws, then last but not least spray painted the screws with a satin black metal paint... and that is all there is to it. I do make sure the paint dries overnight.
Big-T
Betcha can't wait...
Posted by JohnsIsland on Mon, 2011-10-03 05:36To get some paint & tire marks on 'em---heehee
Good lookin' logos, Big-T.
But now I'm hungry---Darn, you!
When two or more minds are concentrating on the same subject, a 3rd, more powerful mind is created. Welcome to HOSR.
As they say in the Southeast
Posted by Big-T on Mon, 2011-10-03 07:12As they say in the Southeast US...
It's Bo Time!! What self respecting track wouldn't have a Bojangle's billboard! :-)
Big-T
Inspirational!
Posted by tabco on Mon, 2011-10-03 09:40Well done! How did you arrive at a height for the billboards? If you wanted to make them taller, do you think they would need to be farther away from the track to keep the perspective correct?
Thanks!
Joe
Determining Billboard Height
Posted by Big-T on Mon, 2011-10-03 11:28I had to determine the retaining wall height first. I had three boards a 1/4", 1/2", and a 3/4" board so I laid them on top of the track. The 3/4" was too tall which made the wall higher than the car. The 1/4" was too short. The 1/2" put the wall at or just above the front hood of a car which I thought was about right. Basically a judgement call here. That 1/2" also worked out to a 50 pixel image height. So to sum it up I had 3 thicknesses to work with and choose the one that seemed to work the best. Real scientific huh. :-)
I suppose you could get away with a higher wall if it was further away from the track. But in looking around the different wall tracks such as Daytona the height of the wall is about at the hood or lower window height and then they extend the height with retaining cable and fencing.
Big-T
A Different Approach
Posted by Serge on Mon, 2011-10-03 14:58On my old track, I was trying to create a more "used" looking venue. I made computer generated signs and background scenery as well as billboards.
scratch built official's tower and grandstands
The only limit is your imagination,
S
"That's all I can stands cause I can't stands no more" Popeye the Sailor
Nice Serge!
Posted by Big-T on Wed, 2011-10-05 13:14Looks great!! How long did it take you to complete this layout?
Also there's just one problem with your post... I can't magnify the pictures to get a better look. :-)
Big-T
It took me....
Posted by Serge on Wed, 2011-10-05 19:03One broken leg and three months in a wheel chair.
"I got better"
Thanks, S
"That's all I can stands cause I can't stands no more" Popeye the Sailor
I still wish you hadn't...
Posted by Plymouth71 on Mon, 2011-10-03 17:41I still wish you hadn't dismantled that track, It was one of my favourites!
The beatings will continue until morale improves- The Captain
Billboards and Temporary Layouts
Posted by Stig McQueen on Mon, 2011-10-03 20:40There's no reason you can't have billboards with a "temporary" layout that you have to dismantle periodically. All you need are a bunch of Tyco guardrail clips. Cut your billboards into strips about the same length as a guardrail, and you won't even have to fold them when you put it away.I was thinking about adding some billboards to my seasonal layout. I've got artwork for all of the CARS Piston Cup sponsors: Dinoco, Nitroade, Fiber Fuel, Vinyl Toupee, Sparemint, N2O Cola, and of course Rust-Eze Medicated Bumper Ointment (Rear End Formula)! Might be a good way to hide some wires and stuff behind the back stretch.(Or, I might decide to light the whole thing along both sides with some EL "tail" wire!)
Tyco clips: http://www.ebay.com/itm/400241348017?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksi...
EL Wire: http://www.elbestbuy.com/liwicule.html
I just do what the voices in my wife's head tell her to tell me to do.
Tell Us More...
Posted by Big-T on Mon, 2011-10-03 21:09Tell Us More...
About this "EL" wire. Do you have any experience with it? If so, can you tell us what your experience has been and possibly a how to on the wire!!!
Big-T
EL Wire
Posted by Stig McQueen on Tue, 2011-10-04 21:50Well, if a little knowledge is a dangerous thing, then I'm dangerous when it comes to electroluminescent (EL) wire -- 'cause that's what I've got, a little knowledge!
Have I used it myself? Yes, but I don't know that ordering up a made-to-measure, pre-soldered, plug-n-play kit qualifies as "experience."
It is cool, though; when lit, it looks like a little flexible neon tube! And in fact, it's been used in scale for just that purpose by many modelers.
The wire is a solid core coated in phosphorous, with a thin filament wire running along it inside a translucent insulation jacket. The power flowing through the wire and down the filament causes the phosphorous to glow uniformly along the entire length of the wire. The color of the insulation jacket is what gives it its color, as the wire itself emits a whitish glow. The solid core has to be connected to one pole of the power source (mine used a 9v battery), and the filament to the other. Because you only have to connect one end, you can cut the rest to length and the segment connected to the power will still glow. It's purely for show; it won't carry power like a conventional wire (though you can run it alongside a conventional wire to lend such an appearance).
I have had to repair some of the pre-soldered connections, and it's not the easiest thing to work with. Soldering the solid core wire is pretty straightforward, but the filament wire is a challenge and I was only halfway successful at it.
I haven't yet used the "tailed" wire, which resembles piping or welting used in upholstery, but it seems to me that the "tail" coudl be clamped to the track with a Tyco guardrail clamp and function as a lighted guardrail. You can also get EL "ribbon," which as its name suggests is a wide, flat strip that lights up. There's even EL sheet, typically known ot hobbyists under the brand-name "Lightsheet," that can be used to back-light things like scale marquees, signs and even scale soda machines (probably best in 1:24 and larger, though). If you want to get really complicated, there are even sequencers that can be used to "animate" EL sheet signs. I have no idea how to do any of that, but I've seen some model RR signs and it sure looks cool!
I should order myself a sample of the tailed EL wire and see if I can make it work. Gotta pay for the decal-making supplies I just ordered first, though.
I just do what the voices in my wife's head tell her to tell me to do.
Perhaps we could all contribute
Posted by aussie ho on Tue, 2011-10-04 02:44... some clip-art concepts for Billboard design? The possibilities are endless of course and would make for some really interesting combinations I reckon.
Disney/Pixar CARS Art
Posted by Stig McQueen on Tue, 2011-10-04 21:55If anyone is interested in the Disney/Pixar CARS sponsor art, a good source is www.carsthetoys.com. Click on "Ramone's House of Body Art" under "Message Baords."
(Here's hoping the HOSR spam-filter will let this one through!)
I just do what the voices in my wife's head tell her to tell me to do.
I've been using the stuff for
Posted by SuperjetRob on Wed, 2011-10-05 12:24I've been using the stuff for years in modeling for a bunch of different things. It's one of those things that you say "how did I live without it" once you've used it for a while. Stig hit it on the head, it's great for neon or any other unworldly glow you would need, although the method of power can be problematic because of size constraints and voltage step down. The down side is it is not a very good simulation for ambient or incandecent light. Same with "white" LED,s, both produce light that is very "Cold". But for what it does it does it well!
Rob
"Creativity is the sudden cessation of stupidity." -- Dr. Edwin. Land
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Billboards
Posted by Serge on Sun, 2011-10-23 08:00Big-T, I think this article would be a great candidate fot the "Track Building" book.
S
"That's all I can stands cause I can't stands no more" Popeye the Sailor
Done!
Posted by Big-T on Sun, 2011-10-23 18:14Done!
Big-T